Hello, you’re listening to the OMNI talk Fast Five brought to you in partnership with Microsoft, the a&m consumer and retail group takeoff sezzle and new for this week, Home delivery world.
That’s quite a read Anne
The OMNI talk fast five podcast is a podcast that we hope makes you feel a little smarter. Most importantly, a little happier each week too. Today is July 7 2022. I’m your host, Anne Mezzenga
And I’m Chris Walton,
and we are here once again to discuss all the top headlines making waves in the world of omni channel retailing. Chris Did you like home delivery home delivery world?
Yeah, it’s like where’s Michael Buffer when I need them?
I have no idea who that is.
But yeah, but I’m excited. Are you excited?
Yeah, I mean, West Philadelphia born and raised on the playground is where I spent most of my day we’re going to Philadelphia.
Who is that? Who’s
Oh, Fresh Prince. Right, right.
You hear that rap at the beginning. He comes from West Philadelphia to Bel Air.
Are we still allowed to reference him? I don’t know. Like, what’s the what’s the what’s the rule post Oscar slap
Oh I don’t know
I think it’s okay now.
Yeah. nostalgic days too Yeah, I don’t know. Yeah, but Anne I’m pumped. I mean, here we come. You know, I see. I think more Rocky theme like Dina na
Oh you want me to stop. Don’t you
No, that’s fine. I just yeah, I didn’t go to Rocky I went to fresh prince.
I think Rocky’s more synonymous with Philadelphia
Hands on who you’re talking to
Liberty Bell the whole nine yards. Last time I was there. I was 10 years old, but I’m pumped because this is without a doubt the summer event in the retail logistics world Anne
There’s gonna be like 5000 people there I think some 300 speakers 300 exhibitors, and we’re gonna be moderating sessions there, too. We just got a panel, we’re deciding our pick of the litter in terms of what we want to monitor moderator deliberating on that question. But yeah, I’m pretty pumped that conferences from the 31st of August to September 1, so two days takes place in the Philadelphia Convention Centre.
And the coolest part Anne
It’s free to register,
Costs nothing to register. So for those of you that are interested in attending can get out to Philadelphia. I know it’s a pretty close, you know, train ride or drive from New York, Washington, DC jersey. Just visit http://www.terrapinn.com/homedelivery. That’s terrapinn.com/homedelivery. And you can register for free it’s that easy. But Anne before we get to the headlines today
I think people inquiring minds want to know who won the Iron Chef Mezzenga match over this Fourth of July holiday weekend.
Well, we did not
we can in the second place. our flare our flare was good we had good we made pork carnitas tacos with blue corn chips and Mr. OMNI talk made that like weird strawberry jalapeno thing
That was not a good idea turned out to really be our the end for us. But my brother and sister in law we had one person do a crunch rap, which I mean, how can you beat a crunch rap?
But actually the winner was my brother and his wife and avid listeners Thomas and James who are avid omni talk listeners. They they’re quoting the omni talk podcast at while they’re winning their Fourth of July.
For taking home. The pork belly coleslaw. And Siracha mayo on sourdough.
Oh wow sourdough. That sounds good. How many people were in this competition when you placed second?
It was three,
Three. Okay. Just want to make sure that
we gave middle of the road
our job Anne at Omni talk to always provide the context of the stories that we’re sharing.
I thought that was an important tidbit.
Yeah, it is.
It’s important. Yeah. Okay, so I want to get to some reviews from other people my young nephews, but
This might be my favourite review of all time
For sure for sure. So today’s review comes from CLW2006. And you know what they said, Chris?
I do but yeah why don’t you share it.
They gave us five stars. They called us which might be the best moniker ever. The dose EQ, of retail podcast. They said I don’t always listen to retail podcasts. But when I do I prefer Omni talk.
I am putting that out on social media today.
Absolutely. That might be one of my absolute
It’s so good. It’s so good.
But just a reminder, if you are listening on Apple podcast, please leave us a review. Heart the podcast if you’re on Spotify, Google Amazon music and please follow and subscribe the podcast y’all so we can keep making that content for you. And we will just read it aloud one day for all the listeners to hear.
That’s right, thanks to CLW2006 for that great review. And like we said we’ll read them each and every week. Just keep them coming. They mean a lot to us. Alright, Anne let’s get to the headlines in today’s Fast Five. We’ve got news on tick tock reportedly shutting down its live stream shopping efforts in the UK and the US. An important follow up to the Bed Bath and Beyond story that we talked about last week. This one’s really interesting,
Juicy as hell Ulta popping up inside the outdoor Soho store. Amazon’s recent investment in Grub Hub, but first we’re gonna take off with big news out of Kohl’s this past week which again Anne leading off with Kohl’s and Bed Bath and Beyond Two weeks in a row what is wrong with this world?
I don’t know. I hope we can retain the listeners attention. That’s right, Chris. I know you’re disappointed to find this out but Kohl’s is no longer for sale. In what was a many months long process that saw Kohl’s engaged with as many as 25 companies according to chain storage, and which saw the Franchise Group emerge as the most attractive bidder most recently at $60 per share. All deals are now off the top of the table. Cole’s Board Chair Pete Bonaparte said this about the deal. He said quote despite a concerted effort on both sides, the current financing and retail environment created significant obstacles to reaching an acceptable and fully executable I can’t even
Executable agreement, jeez. He then went on to add that Kohls quote is a financially strong company that generates substantial free cash flow and has a clear plan to enhance its competitive position and improve performance over the long term end quote, Chris, this, this is so I can’t even read it. But what do you think about this?
It’s yeah, we’re warming up vocally here this morning. I just think the whole thing smells off to me at this point.
Like what about like, what is sticking out?
Like what sticks out to me the most is this part where he quotes a clear plan,
Which I think is just absolute hogwash, because if you remember, for those of those loyal listeners out there, you remember that this strategic plan is essentially composed of three main parts. And to remind those, those listeners of what those are one is the focus on your assortment on the healthy and active lifestyle, which, as we’ve said many times who doesn’t do that, and why does kohls have the right to win that quite honestly, it doesn’t. To is the expanding the Sephora partnership. Okay, I get it.
But I don’t see a doubling in your share price from that over the long haul. I don’t even see really that much of an accretive increase in your share price over the long haul, Right? And yeah, it tells you something else too. Right. Great point. But my favourite part in this whole strategy is that they’re going to build out 100 smaller format stores. Which fun fact because I’ve been trying to get an answer to from Kohl’s on this and is that they said they’ve already tested the small format in 20 stores and plan to roll out just four more of this year. Which smells really off to me too. Because like, Okay, if you’ve tested it in 20 stores, which by the way, I can’t get a definitive answer from them on where those 20 stores are. And they’ve never been reported on by anyone.
So like, how does that work that you’ve done? 20 you’re gonna roll out 100 But you’re only gonna do four this year, something is off. Something is way off. And for anyone listening that is at Kohl’s that maybe can shed some light on this message us on LinkedIn, because I’m really interested to hear what’s going on here. Trying to get answers from Kohl’s directly. I’m not getting them in the way that I want. But yes, something something I’m not I mean, they’re not there. They’re just sending me like, here’s what we’re doing next. But I’m like, I want to know what these 20 stores are. How much are you learning from them? Where are they? I want to go visit one of them if possible to put my own assessment on this strategy. Because honestly, who needs a smaller Kohl’s? And that’s my point. That’s why this smells off.
I don’t know. See, I disagree with you. I think I think that based on what we’re hearing some of the strategies that we’re hearing coming out of Kohl’s right now is like sell off and do lease buybacks and like all these things, like I think my biggest problem with this is that none of the moves they’re making are trying to make Kohl’s a better retailer. They’re not like making Kohl’s focus on having a better point of view on the product selections.
Like even bringing the curbing inventory like you don’t need the cold stores like exploding with stuff, like just figure out what your reasons are that people are coming to the store and provide that footprint that includes those things, and I don’t think it needs to be a giant coals box anymore. And I think that if you then can I mean, maybe I’m oversimplifying this, I definitely could be but if you could consolidate the space that a Kohl’s takes up, and then sell off, like sell the second floor of the Kohl’s? Do you need two stories of a cold store? I don’t know. And what could you get it? What could you be putting back into the company if you were selling off some of those assets completely?
I get your point. They’re like okay, yeah, I can maybe buy into the sale leaseback argument like you know, you know, we’re going to sell the inventory at the store assets that we have, because over time we’re going to get into smaller stores. But net net, that means you’re a less valuable company operating smaller stores and more of them, which if you had 25 offers on the table was not be the best move in the interest of shareholders for the long term. I thought of an analogy that I want to use here that I think totally encapsulates my feelings on this and it’s a Seinfeld reference in there was a great Seinfeld episode where Elaine is digging the sky.
And they both happen to think they’re ethnic. And then they find out at the end of the episode that they’re both white, and they’re like, oh, so we’re just a couple of white people. That’s what I feel after the story. It’s like It’s like kohl’s, wet just you’re just kohl’s again like yeah You’re just you’re just what I thought you were from the beginning. This was a lot of song and dance sound and fury Signifying nothing. I feel like exactly like Elane at the end of that episode. That’s just, it’s just so disheartening in a lot of ways.
I’m gonna have to think about that analogy.
It’s actually a perfect analogy, like, Oh, we’re not anything that great to write home about. But anyway, all right, let’s keep moving to headline number two. This is an interesting point, we left out a discussion last week with Bed Bath and Beyond,
And it was brought to light and by the Wall Street Journal this week that said that Bed Bath and Beyond is burning through its cash reserves. Here are the key points from the article, the retailer ended may with roughly 100 million in cash after burning through more than 300 million of its reserves and borrowing $200 million from its credit line. Second point it is working with advisors, specifically the Berkeley research group on cash management as an has prioritised trying to find a buyer for its byebye baby business makes sense.
The third point which is the key point that puts a new spin on Mark chitons departure CEO, in my opinion is that the Bed Bath and Beyond board also authorised in November 2019. Spending $1 billion on a three year share repurchase plan, which the company completed or isn’t scheduled to complete a year ahead of plan for contracts Bed Bath and Beyond spent $600 million on buybacks last fiscal year and another $43 million in the most recent quarter, when its losses started to balloon saying in as recently as November 21, that it planned to complete the share repurchase in full in this fiscal 2022 year. Anne I’m curious, does this shed any new light on things for you or or raise any new questions in your mind?
I don’t understand this at all, like for multiple reasons. I mean, I think listeners you might have to rewind 10 seconds to just play through and understand the points that are happening here. And I encourage you to dig in what was the you found? Oh, that was for Kohl’s. There was another interview that you listened to. But the Wall Street Journal does a really good job of breaking this down. But I think what I take away from this, the key points for me are they have $100 million left in cash reserves.
And if you recall, I’m gonna go back to that Ryan Cohen letter like right that’s that’s three salaries of the C suite. So what’s happening there like what what changes are being made at Bed Bath and Beyond here? They paid Mark Tritton $27 million just him in the last two years since they started this the buybacks and everything. And then I think the other part is even if they do sell bye bye, baby. They which according to Mr. Chu, Kumba of loop capital markets, who’s quoted in the article, the byebye, baby sale is only worth like $800 million. And then Bed Bath and Beyond is saying, oh, yeah, we reduced our expenses by $100 million. Even if they they do that I don’t understand how the whole thing pencils, like how Bed Bath and Beyond can stay afloat, with the stock buybacks with the you know, the the stock decreasing, like with nobody coming to the store, like how is this all? How is this still functioning?
Yeah, and I’m gonna Anne, I totally agree with you, number one, and I love that you dropped Mr. Chukwuma. Because I’m going to actually drop him as well and a quote, but like, I’m going to take what you just said and raise the ante on this.
Okay, because, I mean, I remember reading at the time, too. I was like, Wait, what are they doing? And I can’t believe I forgot this last week in the context of a conversation, but it’s why I love what we do, because we get to talk about this as much as we want, honestly. But, you know, I was like, why return money to shareholders in the midst of a turnaround? You’re not in a good spot,
So to me, it either smacks of hubris, like supreme overconfidence, in your abilities, as an executive team and as a board, or at Oh, go ahead.
They’re paying them like they
And then conditioning to potentially making our options worth more value for basically deciding to put our money there versus putting in the company to turn it around, which I think is interesting. Which is means to me. So at best hubris. But at worst, I wouldn’t be surprised if we’re looking at a class action lawsuit on behalf of SHIELD shareholders given this at some point. Because if I was a shareholder, I would want answers. Yeah. And especially if I’m an employee of Bed, Bath and Beyond, because the only people who like I said, the only people that win from a move like that is the C suite and the short term investors Anne you don’t believe me? Let’s go back to Mr. Chukwuma.
He said for the Wall Street Journal, and I quote, it’s unusual for a company in the middle of a turnaround that isn’t going well to buy back stock that aggressively here here in my opinion.
Well, let’s see what happens. I’m excited. And
it’s gonna be fun as hell to watch
Yeah, especially like I want to see stories together again. Yeah, I want to see another letter from Ryan code and see what he because he’s the 10% shareholder or something right, like so. He’s gonna definitely if anyone’s leaving that class action lawsuit. I have a feeling he might be
Yeah, maybe he did it. Yeah, that’s interesting, too. I don’t have a Seinfeld analogy for this one. Oh, I’m gonna have to come up with that later. Stay tuned friends.
All right, let’s move on to headline number three. So tick tock has reportedly halted its live e commerce Tik Tok shop initiative in the United States and the UK. According to the Financial Times and TechCrunch. After launching Tik Tok show Up in the UK last year the effort has failed to gain traction. People familiar with the matter told the Financial Times that the expansion plans have been abandoned after influencers dropped out of the project in the UK. And the venture struggled again to gain traction with users. Tick tock employee told the Financial Times that general consumer awareness and adoption is still quite low in the UK. As many tick tock shop lives the hardest thing to say yeah, all time achieved poor sales despite efforts to encourage brands and influencers to sell through the app. Chris?
This is also the a&m put you on the spot Question of the week
Ofcourse it is
Yes, they want me to say tic tac shop about fix Doctor doc shop. But they also want to know, here’s what they had to say we’re, we’re unclear where any confidence to take tick tock shop to the US after its struggles so far in the UK would come from. So given what we know about the typical tick tock user, and how they engage with content. What do you think is a better way for CPG brands to generate Commerce on Tik Tok than this QVC style livestream mechanism?
Oh, man, that’s such a good question. Such a good question, especially given the content that we’ve been focused on here at Omni talk, which is all been about live streaming and shopping shoppable video of late we’ve done as much content on that as anyone. My first take, though to before I get to that question. My first thing is, I’m a little sceptical of this article, like, I’m a little sceptical that journalism is honestly a little light on this. Anne I’m curious,
shot’s fired to Financial Times.
And I mean, it is like, I’m a little curious if they’re following the headline here. But you know, I don’t know. But so let’s take it at face value.
Then now, let’s answer the question. So, you know, to me, my advice to brands would be this would be, the thing that’s happened with this whole conversation we talked about a lot Anne is live streaming and shoppable video have been confused and brought in together as one topic. Whereas I don’t think in the American market and probably in the UK market, too, I don’t think it’s going to be as much about live streaming, like, I don’t think it’s going to be as much as about QVC.
And that, because there’s so many dynamics that are different from us versus Asian market. And so my advice would be, take a page out of Vincent yangu fireworks book as a CPG. And create just great video content, make the video content shoppable, it doesn’t have to be live, it can play in live time when you visit the CPG website or the retailer’s website, or whatever. And then the cool thing about that is, that’s where you’re where you want your traffic to go. And it’s very easy to then farm that out to all of the different social media platforms that are out there. So it’s essentially doing the same thing. But it captures the audience in a different way. It’s the eyeballs to your site in a different way.
And I think that just is the right approach versus trying to do something like, like actual QVC style live streams in these platforms. It just doesn’t make sense. That’s step one, if you want to go to that leader that you can, but again, I would argue you should do that from your own site, and then do like almost like simulcast it or rebroadcast it through these social media platforms to get the continued engagement. But what do you think you’re you’re much more of the aficionado on this subject than I am
Well, I think it’s important to call out again, that, you know, in the US, we use social for a different purpose than we do it then they do in Asian markets, especially in China and the success that they’re seeing there. And I think that it’s important, as you’re calling out for, it’s still there’s still a need for these social channels. But we interviewed Jeff Lucas from firework last week. And one of the things he was saying, you know, the average consumer spends 1.4 seconds on that content, not spending, you need more engagement, you need deeper engagement with the product for people to for this, like for live shopping to take off.
So I think that the value to answer any AIIMS question, the value, like you said, is to host the content on the retailer of CPG site, it gives it a longer lifespan. I mean, that was one of the biggest complaints like it hasn’t drawn audiences, they haven’t seen the numbers take off from this, but they’re not going to like it’s just not the it’s not the setting for that you still need the social networks to help drive traffic to the sites or you know, to take repurpose content from the content that you have on your own site.
But ultimately, if you want that good shopping experience, you have you have the confidence in that in what you’re buying is, you know, is verified it’s authentic product, you have a much better experience doing that on the retailers or CPGs website. And I think that’s really the focus here. It does not need to be done in the social shopping platform, which I’ll admit we might have to eat crow on that because I remember when like Instagram shaft, Facebook shops, tick tock shops, everything was coming out were like this is the next big thing this is exactly how it’s gonna go. I don’t know that we’re going to see that that’s going to transpire successfully or that’s going to scale successfully in the US market.
Yeah I think that’s the important thing is that the nuance matters, which is what I kind of joked about in the beginning is the context is important here like you we got to be careful the terms that we use in these discussions, which is why I fought hard for omni channel retailing for so many years. Like the key thing here is shoppable video first and foremost.
Right that’s, that’s important that you want to do a live stream Do it do it on your own website because a live stream somebody has to engage with, they have to schedule the time to be there at that time for that extended period of time, right? Do it on your website, let it live organically however you want through whatever platform. And that’s the key to me here, which, you know, I don’t think a lot of people understood. And I think honestly, that could still be wrong to some degree too. But I think it’s what we’ve learned through our conversations with the people that really get this.
All right Anne headline number four is fascinating to me.
is it though?
I don’t know. We’ll see. We’ll see. You’ve been known to surprise me a lot. So Ulta Beauty is now part of the allure pop up experience in New York City. For those Omni talk listeners that may not be as in the know in the Papa beauty scene as our very own Amazon got allure, allure, allure, as a store in Soho developed in partnership between a lawyer publisher Conde Nast and the retail media company store group. And and I hope I’m saying that right, because it has a little carrot over the O, which I’ve never actually seen really written in English language.
And I don’t know how to pronounce that. So apologies if I did not say that correctly. According to chain storage, the store is set to serve as a physical extension of the alert beauty magazine brand, the aforementioned Ulta Beauty pop up inside of alert will showcase a curated assortment of quote, coveted brands that will be refreshed monthly and complemented by experiential programming and events. And they plan for it to be open from July through September now Anne
I think the reason you’re giving me some grief is you fought really hard for this story. And what was quite honestly a very shortened retail News Week, as some of you listeners might be able to tell, why was that?
Okay? Because I love this opportunity for both Allure and Ulta. But specifically Ulta. I know it’s easy to read this headline and be like book, another beauty pop up, who cares? Like no big deal. But I think what this shows and what we need to be paying attention to here is that Ulta is testing small formats with a strong point of view. Hint, hint, kohl’s listening, like, this is what I was trying to get him
Yeah target too.
Yeah. But they’re doing this with smart partners, also the biggest beauty retailer in the US, I think that what the next steps for this could bring, you know, depending on the success of this pilot would be extending beyond the media outlets. So it’s starting to look at you know, taking and creating a store of all Ulta products based on like a beauty influencers picks based on you know, online, bringing online affiliate marketing, like into the physical world. And I think that this, they’re already doing this online, they’re doing this in stores, I think that this could just be a nice extension of of that experience and really teach Ulta how to partner and do small format, like even pop up stores in a really great concept and format.
So Mike, so basically, this is like the the testing ground for Ulta do micro implementations throughout the country. Okay, interesting. Okay, well, I didn’t thought about that. I just, I don’t I’m just not buying it that much. Like I think you’re I think we’re over subscribing to this. I mean, to me, it feels like just so much of the same stories we’ve relied upon for the last five years at Omni talk these ideas that are essentially like marketing concepts that have no chance of seeing the light. And today, they’re always in there seem like they’re always in Soho. I mean, a lot of ways it feels like story of a different colour to me, in my opinion.
But you know, but if it isn’t going to hit mass, you know, I don’t know. I mean, maybe it hits through social media, or Instagram and Tiktok the mass market, but I don’t think there’s any way this becomes like, a repeatable physical concept over time. But maybe I mean, maybe maybe I give you the last word here, but maybe prove me wrong, because maybe there’s a way that they can learn how to do smaller installations throughout the country in a scalable way through this idea, but
I think the hardest one, I think the hardest part of this is how to do it in a physical setting. Like they’re already able to do this online. They’re running affiliate programmes they’re running like, that is all like functioning. I think now it’s figuring out like, you take a huge organisation like Ulta and figure out how to work more nimbly, how to do this and execute what they’re seeing success with online. Allure has been having tonnes of success across multiple retailers with their beauty programming, which they brought into the physical that now I think it’s time for the team at Ulta to figure out how to get flexible, but how to execute this, which I would go I mean, I would go to a destination if one of the influencers that I follow on Tik Tok or on Instagram was doing, you know, their collection of products like it would draw me into the store to be able to at least test them out. And odds are once you get me there, I’m gonna buy it. So I think it’s important for the Ulta team to really be thinking of how to work in this way.
All right. Let’s go to headline number five, so
This one’s juicy.
Yes, so Amazon has struck an investment deal with GrubHub. So according to Bloomberg yesterday morning, Amazon will receive options for a 2% stake in Grub Hub and will have the opportunity to increase their holding to 15%. Amazon stake is in the form of warrants, which will vest depending on how well the partnership performs and how many new customers it attracts. The steak is also part of a partnership where Amazon will offer us Prime members a one year membership to the food delivery service. GrubHub is parent company justeattakeaway.com also said in a statement on Wednesday, not surprisingly, as a result of this news, just eat stock jumped as much as 20%. Chris, what do you think about this one?
Yeah, I mean, aside from getting like a 80s Flashback warrant, like remember the band warrant? I always love whenever I see Amazon, and I don’t remember though, I can’t remember they’re not cherry pie, are they?
I don’t know,
I am gonna have to look that up or look that up. You can start one of us to start looking up as we’re doing this, but random. Okay. But there is I don’t know, essentially, I’ve got two takeaways on this one Anne.
First of all, it shows me as we’ve long said on this show that the foods and you brought this up actually I give you credit for for bringing this idea to the floor. The food delivery business is a different hook than the standard same day delivery options, a lot Instacart Grub Hub, you know, heck even Amazon is known for. So I think that’s one thing that it kind of validates that strategic hypothesis to me. And my second point is, I think it’s a great move for Amazon, you know, going off now, I did some more math here. This is a math heavy show Anne
Going off GrubHub is previous valuation, which was which was at the time $7 billion is probably less now given the recent state of the economy in their business. A 2% stake essentially equates to $140 million dollar option that’s already gained 20% in value roughly give or take. So there’s no risk here at all, and they kill me have the option to escalate that bet. Should they want to so I don’t know what work would hold? I don’t know, but getting GrubHub with prime. That’s the most important point.
That is an incredibly compelling hook. Kudos to Jamil Ghani again, for his work on this. I know he’s been on social media talking about it, like our friend at Amazon, like good move, man, like free feed restaurant delivery with my prime membership. Sign me up. I can’t think of a better marketing hook honestly.
Yeah, exactly. I mean, the, it’s, it’s gonna be interesting here where they’re saying like, okay, so it’s, you know, we’re gonna see how this performs see how many members you get, okay, you have 150 million prime subscribers, that all have the ability to get a free GrubHub membership. And once they’re hooked on that, once they start doing that, my, my guess is they’re going to like doing that they’re going to continue to do it. It’s better for it’s great for Amazon. It’s great for GrubHub it’s great for the restaurants that are going to be participating in this too.
But the things I’m going to be watching out for are one, how much first party data is going to be shared between the two because I think that when you start to think about what people are, if any, what people are ordering from Amazon, what people are ordering, ordering from restaurant delivery, and like how that starts to kind of coalesce through the years,
Because they’re kind of enemies to this is like a frenimies of
Amazon had Amazon restaurant, right, they pulled it down because it wasn’t successful. But I think that it’s still you know, this is what I want to see like how those two worlds kind of collide. But then the other thing I’m wondering is if any Amazon logistics services will be brought into this like to help with Grubhub’s routing to help with other areas if we’re going to start to see any changes to that part of the business as time goes on. And their potential stake rises in Grubhub but
yeah, that’s a good point. I mean, it’s good point. Did you have it? Do you have an answer on the warrant thing?
Yeah, I do. They had a it was a band from the 80s and they had their hit song was heaven.
Heaven Okay, I can’t remember that song off the top my head.
It’s a power ballad?
Of course it is.
Yeah. Geez, I don’t even I’m trying to think of like, how that goes.
I don’t know either. But somebody out there will remember it and put the words in social media for us so that we can get that recall going.
Yes. All right. Let’s get to the lightning round. Chris. Lululemon launched their hike collection this week, including your favourite article of clothing, the ripstop pant, which they have Lulu ified to sound much better, and to be able to sell for much more money called abrasion resistant pants are you up for expanding your pant collection and trying them
You know me so well Anne it’s just kind of creepy because like, this is actually what gets me interested in this idea.
Like the hiking can’t itself as like a casual pant. That’s kind of a khaki kind of not.
Could double is out if it’s very done very well. Yes. 100% I’m all in on trying this. 100% All right, Prime Day is next Tuesday Anne got your eye on anything for you or Mr. Omni.
Oh yeah. Pickleball paddles that we started playing pickleball last weekend at my parents for Fourth of July. And it is intense you know how competitive I am
paddleball set. Oh, it’s wrapped up a court that you’re like the local
I mean, it’s this thing is taking the nation and like tennis courts actually. My husband went to Dick’s Sporting Goods yesterday and the the employee at Dick’s Sporting Goods told him that it used to have all racquetball four aisles of racquetball stuff that’s now all pickleball and do you know how much a pickleball paddle costs?
I don’t actually know how
it’s like, it’s like 70 dollars and higher things are like tennis rackets so I’m going to be looking for Prime Day deal.
What’s what the difficult phrases of this podcast pickleball paddle like, come on,
I don’t know
Like, but also, I’m calling to mind the words of the immortal chunk from Goonies nerd alert. All right.
All right, Chris armas is bringing its pop up gym experience to the Hollywood Athletic Club this summer featuring kickboxing with bracelets classes, and Irma’s scarf covered boxing bags. Which Hollywood personality would you most want to take a kickboxing class with Chris?
Oh god easy. Mickey Kelly. Mickey Kelly for sure for sure. I don’t know who I’d want to beat up the most I think that’s where you’re going you don’t question but
oh, I wasn’t I was like, Hey, you want to go take that bracelet? So that would be that would be my answer dollars of scarves definitively
Like it’s her and then everyone else has stepped down. All right. Anne last question. Jello skin is the latest viral trend taking over tick tock from South Korean beauty influencer Eva Lee. On a scale of lime green to Jello pudding pop, where would you say you fall?
Oh, the jello cake. It’s my favourite cake of all time.
What’s a jello cake.
It’s a regular cake like that You stick a fork in and then you pour the jello mixture and hot water on the cake. And then you cover it in Cool Whip and it is amazing.
Oh my god. You don’t like gravy but you like that.
Oh, love it. My grandma used to make it. It’s like it’s so good. I’ll make it and you can try it. It’s like very popular around the Fourth of July. She always used to make it.
Is that a Minnesota thing?
I actually no, it’s called the jello poke cake. It actually has a name. It’s on the jello box.
The jello what poke?
Right. Okay. Sure. All right. Thank you for that. Thank you for that random walk through culinary history. Much appreciated. Alright. Alright, that wraps us up. Happy Birthday today to Bill Hader, Iggy Azalea and the man who definitely will find you if you piss him off. Liam Neeson
Yes, he will tuck in
You big fan of Liam Neeson?
I just liked that movie
That movie was pretty good.
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